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Many organizations say they want to invest in people, but their hiring and talent practices often tell a very different story.

Degree requirements, limited benefits packages, and poor management practices continue to limit who gets access to opportunity and how teams perform. And the cost shows up everywhere: higher turnover, slower productivity, and missed potential.

Fortunately, this week’s guest brings clear data and practical strategies that show how companies can do better for both people and performance.

Dr. Angela Jackson is a Workplace Futurist and ESG expert, founder of Future Forward Strategies, and a lecturer at Harvard Graduate School of Education. She works with entrepreneurs, F100s, and policymakers on the future of work. Dr. Angela holds a doctorate from Harvard University and serves on several boards, including Needham Bancorp. Her book, The Win-Win Workplace, became a New York Times, USA Today, and Los Angeles Times Best Seller

If you want to build stronger teams, reduce turnover, and boost performance inside your organization, this episode offers a practical roadmap.

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Conversation Topics

• (00:00) Why “being your best self at work” is a business imperative

• (02:52) What is a “zero-sum workplace”?

• (06:05) What happens when workplaces invest in people

• (06:57) The 9 pillars of a Win-Win Workplace (overview)

• (12:26) What managers can do (even without company-wide power)

• (19:03) Distributed leadership and the Ownership mindset

• (26:57) A great manager story

• (29:30) How to connect with Angela

• (30:45) [Extended Interview] Building a deep talent bench

• (32:30) [Extended Interview] Hiring for skills, not credentials

• (36:18) [Extended Interview] How to design a skills-based interview

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• Read her book here: https://www.readwinwinworkplace.com/

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