362: Delegate with Confidence in 4 Simple Steps with Dallas Burnett

June 18, 20252 min read

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Do you feel like you’re drowning in your task list? 

You know delegation is important. You know your team wants to contribute. But still, something holds you back—whether it’s fear of mistakes or the lack of time to explain things.

You don’t have to stay stuck in this cycle.

Joining me today is Dallas Burnett. Dallas is the founder and CEO of Perforam and author of "Lift," "MOVE!" and "Caveman Delegation," He is a performance management expert dedicated to transforming how organizations unlock potential. He partners with senior executives to design unique people systems that reduce turnover, boost productivity, and increase profits.

In this episode, Dallas dives deep into the common fears that prevent managers from  delegating, such as the fear of failure and the belief that it’s quicker to do things themselves.

He introduces his simple yet effective “Caveman Delegation” model, a four-step process that helps managers confidently delegate tasks, processes, and outcomes without micromanaging.

✨Plus, in the extended episode available to Podcast+ members, Dallas discusses how tools like the Enneagram can help you better understand your team’s personalities—so you can delegate in a way that sets everyone up for success.

Conversation Topics

  • (00:00) Introduction

  • (02:13) The stigma associated with delegation

  • (04:59) Overcoming the fear of failure when delegating

  • (07:27) Debunking the myth that delegation takes too much time

  • (09:06) The Caveman Delegation model explained

  • (17:16) Delegating tasks vs. processes vs. outcomes

  • (26:21) Why risk and reversibility analysis matter in delegation

  • (29:11) A great manager Dallas has worked for

  • (31:05) Keep up with Dallas

  • (31:31) [Extended Episode Only] Enhancing delegation through personality types

  • (35:13) [Extended Episode Only] How the Enneagram supports smarter delegation

Additional Resources

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✨Visit my website for more: https://www.mamieks.com/ 

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✨Subscribe to my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7jhYz8b16g1SsLia4EhO5w?sub_confirmation= 

✨Read the full transcript here

Keep up with Dallas Burnett

- Follow Dallas on LinkedIn and X (formerly Twitter)

- Subscribe and listen to the ThinkMoveThrive podcast here

- Grab a copy of Caveman Delegation here

Guest Bonus: FREE Enneagram compatibility guide based on Caveman Delegation

Dallas is providing his Enneagram compatibility guide based on Caveman Delegation for free to members of Podcast+.

This guide helps you delegate effectively using Enneagram insights. Discover how to communicate, motivate, and match tasks to each Enneagram type’s strengths.

👉 To get this guest bonus and many other member benefits, become a member of The Modern Manager Podcast+ Community: https://themodernmanager.com/more 


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